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Alex Leary • Tampa Bay Times
March 13, 2017: 02:18 PM


More from this morning's "listening session" on health care.

A collection of Obamacare "victims" from across the country shared their stories. (names below as provided by WH).

But first, more from POTUS, who said the Obamacare repeal and replacement must come in three steps, due to working with Congress. "I'd love to do it all in one package, but if you did it that way, it can't get done."

As pool was led out, a reporter asked POTUS if he had "any message" for people worried about losing coverage if Obamacare goes away.

"It'll get better. If we're allowed to do what we want to do, it will get better. Much better.," POTUS replied. "Hopefully it will get very good."

1. Mrs. Carrie Couey, from Colorado, said her rates are "three times" higher than when Obamacare began and that has hurt her family cattle ranching business. "We can't afford our equipment if we're paying these rates year after year after year. Our food source is in jeopardy because of this health care law."

2. Ms. Brittany Ivey, Georgia, said she left a full-time job in 2009 to raise her two children. She said a family plan for four cost them $650 per month and by 2015, it had gone up "102 percent." She said her husband's employer dropped the family from coverage so she looked for a new job but couldn't find one that offered insurance. At that point, the family got Obamacare. "We believed the sales pitch that if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Even though we were going to have to pay $1,300 a month for Obamacare, we thought we'd still be ok with our doctors." But she said doctors would not accept the coverage. "We paid them $8,000 in five months and were never able to use it." She and her husband earn a combined $74,000 a year, Ivey said, but health care is too burdensome. "It's almost put our family in financial ruin."

3. Mr. Elias Seife, Florida, said his individual plan was canceled. He said his parents came from Communist Cuba. "They know what socialism is all about. I know what socialism is ... and this whole system was meant to have one single provider."

4. Ms. Kim Sertich, Arizona, said her premium last year was $365 a month and it had risen to $809 a month this year, with a deductible of $6,800. "It just didn't seem like a good use of my money," she said, adding she had opted out and went into a faith-based program.

5. Mr. Louis Brown, Virginia, said he worked for the Democratic National Committee when the Affordable Care Act was going through Congress in 2009 and that he later resigned, citing opposition to abortion. He supported Trump in the election and said that he was on hand to support efforts to place people "at the center of our American health care system, not the government."

6. Dr. Manny Sethi, Tennessee, says he runs nonprofit called Healthy Tennessee and that he's noticed that people can't afford rising premiums. "So what they are doing is, effectively, they're paying the tax penalty because it's cheaper and works out better than paying for the insurance. That's been a big problem that we're seeing across the state."

7. Mr. Joel Brown, Tennessee, said he's in farming and he considered paying the penalty for not carrying insurance. He said there is only one option for coverage, Blue Cross Blue Shield Tennessee and the premium is $540 a month with a $7,000 deductible. "You've got to pay a high premium for a plan that I don't need or don't want."

8. Dr. Robin Armstrong, Texas, said a lot of patients are not adequately covered by Obamacare and are hit with high premiums and deductibles. "I actually read the bill that's been produced, that's coming out of the House now and I really like a lot of the changes in it. I think this is going to correct a lot of issues that Obamacare has had."

9. Ms. Gina Sell, Wisconsin, said she's a nurse and mother and had to get a full-time position to pay the costs. "We could not afford a premium of $1,200 per month and a deductible that didn't cover anything." She said now the deductible is $6,500 "and so if I have a child who is extremely sick, it's going to cost me hundreds of dollars." Last week, she said, her daughter had a fever and she sent her to school for "three days straight because I had to work to afford our insurance" and couldn't pay for a trip to the doctor. "It has been devastating for our family."

10. Mr. Greg Knox, Ohio, began by giving POTUS a note and drawing from his 11-year-old son. The note was written on the back of a cutout face with orangeish hair. "Looks nothing like you," Knox said to laughter. POTUS flashed a big smile and said, "I wish I looked that good." Knox said he had meet with Secretary Price and Vice President Pence during a recent roundtable in Cincinnati. "We have the best health care system in the world. We do. But it needs to be fixed. Small business owners like myself -- I'm a manufacturer -- what we'd like to see is not a government-operated market but a free market."

11. Mr. Stan Summers, Utah, said his son was born premature 26 years ago and they had good insurance but it deteriorated over time. Enter the ACA. "I'm not going to call it the other word. I call it the last president's health care bill. I don't need to say that name." (POTUS: "Other than that, you like him a lot." Laughter.) Summers said he has three businesses and drives a school bus to provide coverage for his family. He said he expects to meet a $6,000 deductible in April.

Secretary Price gave brief remarks about the stories. "This is about real people, about real patients." He said he was "really excited" to help install a replacement.

POTUS then again bemoaned what he deemed "wonderful press" about Obamacare. "It's a horrible thing, actually, and getting worse."

VPOTUS thanked the participants. "These people are emblematic of the Americans that Obamacare has failed."



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